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Posted: Jul 23 2009, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE (Comrade Kesha @ Jul 23 2009, 10:10 PM)
no offense but uhh

is it really ok to just go and ban people for stuff that was just fine to post not too long ago with no warning or anything?

Yeah it is; the ban's twelve hours too so there's no real reason to care that much.


plus the images were silly


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Posted: Jul 23 2009, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE (Tri @ Jul 23 2009, 04:12 PM)
Yeah it is; the ban's twelve hours too so there's no real reason to care that much.


plus the images were silly

it's still a ban for something that they couldn't have possibly known was wrong

I mean I'm all for banning them, but just going out and doing out of the blue? come on now, that's not very fair
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  Posted: Jul 23 2009, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE (Comrade Kesha @ Jul 23 2009, 01:10 PM)
with no warning or anything?

that's what this topic is for


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QUOTE (DJ Yoshiman @ Jul 23 2009, 04:16 PM)
that's what this topic is for

don't see anything about reaction images
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QUOTE (Comrade Kesha @ Jul 23 2009, 01:16 PM)
don't see anything about reaction images

that would be in the rules under spam


let me guess, this is where you try to loophole now, correct?

and if so, somehow attempt to explain that it's not loopholing?


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Posted: Jul 23 2009, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE (DJ Yoshiman @ Jul 23 2009, 04:17 PM)
that would be in the rules under spam


let me guess, this is where you try to loophole now, correct?

and if so, somehow attempt to explain that it's not loopholing?

what loophole? I don't see how what they posted were spam, Zash's meant "hey i trolled you guys" and crashman's was "no you didn't, you're just trying to save face."

I'm sure I'm not the only one who doesn't really think of them as spam, and if you guys know you're going to ban them, why not just tell us
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Posted: Jul 23 2009, 03:20 PM
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Do you honestly think we're singling them out? And do you honestly think they didn't know posting fairly meaningless reaction images isn't against the rules?


They broke the rules. We banned them.


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Posted: Jul 23 2009, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE (Tri @ Jul 23 2009, 04:20 PM)
Do you honestly think we're singling them out? And do you honestly think they didn't know posting fairly meaningless reaction images isn't against the rules?


They broke the rules. We banned them.

I don't think you're singling them out, I think just going out and banning someone, anyone, for something that's ok one day without warning isn't fair.

and you're the one who brought it up
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Posted: Jul 23 2009, 03:21 PM
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Posted: Jul 23 2009, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE (Comrade Kesha @ Jul 23 2009, 10:20 PM)
I don't think you're singling them out, I think just going out and banning someone, anyone, for something that's ok one day without warning isn't fair.

and you're the one who brought it up

It may not be 'fair' but at least maybe they'll learn not to do it again!


I know it's a bit harsh, but we have to start somewhere.

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Zash's meant "hey i trolled you guys" and crashman's was "no you didn't, you're just trying to save face."


all the more reason to remove the posts and show them that kind of posting is bad!


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  Posted: Jul 23 2009, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE (Comrade Kesha @ Jul 23 2009, 01:19 PM)
what loophole? I don't see how what they posted were spam, Zash's meant "hey i trolled you guys" and crashman's was "no you didn't, you're just trying to save face."

I'm sure I'm not the only one who doesn't really think of them as spam, and if you guys know you're going to ban them, why not just tell us

just like i said, attempting to explain how "it's not in the rules"

we did tell you - in the rules, long ago


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Posted: Jul 23 2009, 03:24 PM
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Posted: Jul 23 2009, 03:25 PM
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wait reaction images are bannable now?


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Posted: Jul 23 2009, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE (DJ Yoshiman @ Jul 23 2009, 04:24 PM)
just like i said, attempting to explain how "it's not in the rules"

we did tell you - in the rules, long ago

I'm not though.

I'm JUST SAYING

banning for something that was OK just a few days ago without a warning is not cool

in the rules or not? eh who cares really, the rules never seemed to matter much to you guys to begin with
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Posted: Jul 23 2009, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE (Comrade Kesha @ Jul 23 2009, 10:28 PM)
I'm not though.

I'm JUST SAYING

banning for something that was OK just a few days ago without a warning is not cool

in the rules or not? eh who cares really, the rules never seemed to matter much to you guys to begin with

Well now they do; tyvm for answering your own question

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banning for something that was OK just a few days ago without a warning is not cool


So we're bad peeps because we ban? huh.gif

look I know you're frustrated but we have to start somewhere. They will get posting powers back soon, and then they'll see why they were banned and if they want to reason with us they are more than free to do so.


Also it was only ok a few days ago in the most platonic sense, where we didn't ban simply because we were too lazy or we ignored it or we didn't see it or whatever. That kind of posting's been against the rules for some time. So it's our fault for not enforcing said rules sooner.


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Posted: Jul 23 2009, 03:35 PM
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They (the moderation staff) can put virtually WHATEVER they want in "the rules" because "the rules" are so broad and extremely encouraging to "interpretation" (even with their healthy supply of adjectives).

I'm very surprised that you made this Tri, even if it was generally agreed up by the rest of the staff. This isn't something I would have ever expected from a green member of a staff supposedly trying to help the forum members.


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QUOTE (Comrade Kesha @ Jul 23 2009, 01:28 PM)
banning for something that was OK just a few days ago without a warning is not cool

this topic is the warning


wait didn't i say this already


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QUOTE (Tri @ Jul 23 2009, 04:32 PM)
So we're bad peeps because we ban?  :huh:

ban with no warning, yeah.
QUOTE (DJ Yoshiman @ Jul 23 2009, 04:36 PM)
this topic is the warning


wait didn't i say this already

I still don't see anything about reaction images...
It's great you consider them spam and all, some don't, and if you're going to be vague about it you can't really blame people for not following your set of rules


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QUOTE (Tony Trombone @ Jul 23 2009, 10:35 PM)
They (the moderation staff) can put virtually WHATEVER they want in "the rules" because "the rules" are so broad and extremely encouraging to "interpretation" (even with their healthy supply of adjectives).

I'm very surprised that you made this Tri, even if it was generally agreed up by the rest of the staff. This isn't something I would have ever expected from a green member of a staff supposedly trying to help the forum members.

the biggest problem is that you guys have the ABSOLUTE power to label pretty much everything we do as bad.

This is cumbersome. I want to help you, but I'm not sure if you think that I meant siding entirely with the members [which would be "ideal" since I'm in staff now] in the recurring staff-members arguments is your idea of 'helping'. It really isn't.


We're not doing this to harm you. We're doing this to fix a ****load of problems that we have both on your end and our own.


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QUOTE (Comrade Kesha @ Jul 23 2009, 01:36 PM)
It's great you consider them spam and all, some don't, and if you're going to be vague about it you can't really blame people for not following your set of rules

people say it's vague, they find an exploit, no matter how miniscule-like specific the rules are


in order to be more specific, the rules then become longer, then people don't read them


so put posts under general categories, and then ensure they think before posting


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