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Posted: Jul 23 2009, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE (DJ Yoshiman @ Jul 23 2009, 04:16 PM)
i don't even get it

He's known for having a reaction image collection, as well as collecting the ones other people post.



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Posted: Jul 23 2009, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE (Tri @ Jul 23 2009, 05:17 PM)
why did it ever go beyond this?

you brought it up and you're the one exploding this out of proportion
QUOTE (DJ Yoshiman @ Jul 23 2009, 05:18 PM)
so are we going to have to do this every time a member/members decide to find another loophole

sure, why not.
really if you guys are going to be unfair it's not so crazy to think that the members would have a problem with something


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Posted: Jul 23 2009, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE (Comrade Kesha @ Jul 23 2009, 11:18 PM)
you brought it up and you're the one exploding this out of proportion

sure, why not.
really if you guys are going to be unfair it's not so crazy to think that the members would have a problem with something

you asked me and then you complained about BS's decision (which I influenced of course) to ban Zash/Ryo/Draku.


Holy **** are you just being redundant to annoy me? Because IT'S REALLY working

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Don't talk to us like you don't know what spam is because you do and you know people've been banned for it before. Our community is immensely reserved so the few of us that collectively post a lot know what spam is, so even if we tell you it's pretty much up to us to decide what it is you can still be banned for pretending like you haven't been banned/seen others be banned for doing the same thing (yeah spam sucks!)


we didn't ban them because they posted reaction images is that really so hard to get through?


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Posted: Jul 23 2009, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE (DJ Yoshiman @ Jul 23 2009, 05:18 PM)
so are we going to have to do this every time a member/members decide to find another loophole

If it takes it, yes, unfortunately. Look on the bright side. If you do less and less MFGGers will complain. Hopefully.


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  Posted: Jul 23 2009, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE (Comrade Kesha @ Jul 23 2009, 02:18 PM)
sure, why not.

because then it's going to be never-ending and inevitably completely unnecessary


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Posted: Jul 23 2009, 04:25 PM
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There should be one person who has their own group to themselves. "Rule Maker"


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Posted: Jul 23 2009, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE (Tri @ Jul 23 2009, 05:23 PM)
you asked me and then you complained about BS's decision (which I influenced of course) to ban Zash/Ryo/Draku.


Holy **** are you just being redundant to annoy me? Because IT'S REALLY working
yeah, I asked you what you meant. You brought up this thing, and then I replied to it and somehow you turned it into WHY DO THE MODS ALWAYS GET QUESTIONED and here we are

are you trying to throw this off just to avoid admitting your wrong? because it's not working


QUOTE (Tri @ Jul 23 2009, 05:23 PM)
we didn't ban them because they posted reaction images is that really so hard to get through?
that's what they posted and that's what's in the ban log, so eh, yeah it is pretty hard to understand that they were getting banned for something else
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Posted: Jul 23 2009, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE (MONEYMAN @ Jul 23 2009, 04:25 PM)
There should be one person who has their own group to themselves. "Rule Maker"

Not til I get my joking Admodinerator title.


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  Posted: Jul 23 2009, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE (Comrade Kesha @ Jul 23 2009, 02:26 PM)
that's what they posted and that's what's in the ban log, so eh, yeah it is pretty hard to understand that they were getting banned for something else

it says reaction image spam in the CCC


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Posted: Jul 23 2009, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE (DJ Yoshiman @ Jul 23 2009, 05:31 PM)
it says reaction image spam in the CCC

yes it does
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Posted: Jul 23 2009, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE (Comrade Kesha @ Jul 23 2009, 11:26 PM)
yeah, I asked you what you meant. You brought up this thing, and then I replied to it and somehow you turned it into WHY DO THE MODS ALWAYS GET QUESTIONED and here we are

are you trying to throw this off just to avoid admitting your wrong? because it's not working


that's what they posted and that's what's in the ban log, so eh, yeah it is pretty hard to understand that they were getting banned for something else

Sorry. I was wrong not to warn them beforehand, and the warnlog description is also wrong. I'll send you PM every time I ban someone with a list of specifications detailing the circumstances of the ban.


Don't take this wrongly. I'm serious.


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Posted: Jul 23 2009, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE (DJ Yoshiman @ Jul 23 2009, 03:58 PM)


and if you're not making complaining topics about it, you're IMing/PMing said mod/admin, chastising them like crazy


Makes me feel bad. I just PMed Blacksquirrel with SUGGESTIONS, and I didn't mean to sound arrogant, rude, or anything of the sort.


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QUOTE (Tri @ Jul 23 2009, 05:32 PM)
Sorry. I was wrong not to warn them beforehand, and the warnlog description is also wrong. I'll send you PM every time I ban someone with a list of specifications detailing the circumstances of the ban.


Don't take this wrong. I'm serious.

ok, i'll be waiting
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QUOTE (Comrade Kesha @ Jul 23 2009, 02:32 PM)
yes it does

so there you go, what they were banned for is in the rules


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Posted: Jul 23 2009, 06:47 PM
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You people are trying to exploit everything the staff do. There are almost 5000 members on MFGG, but there are only 3 admins, 4 global mods, and 4 regular mods to moderate the entire thing. It's very difficult to moderate 5000 completely different people, and generalizations are required. Even if only 200 members out of that 5000 are active regularly, it's still a chore to moderate them all with just 11 people. Stop trying to pretend like the staff are all perfect and that are acting like they are perfect, because they aren't.

If it seems bad, don't do it. Why must you require a document dictating what is good or bad? The rules are up to the staff's interpretation, and it is good enough.

Here's an idea; add this to the bottom of the rules:
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In a community with many users, it is difficult for the staff to do their job.  As such, it is also difficult to include every single guideline for you to follow in these rules.  Please, make the staff's job easier, and just use common sense when posting.  If you know something is bad, don't post it.  If you're not sure if something is bad, don't post it.  If you're mostly sure something is okay, you can just PM a staff member and ask before posting it.  You're not going to get away with saying it wasn't in the rules, nor are you going to get away with annoying bugging the staff about something you could have asked the staff about beforehand.
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Posted: Jul 23 2009, 07:01 PM
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Terms like "common sense" and "stupidity" are thrown around (yes, they are thrown around) like you think that if you post it enough times (or in big enough letters), everyone will suddenly "get it". That's not the case. That is the opinion and, like RetroXYZ said, interpretation of the moderation. It is very unreasonable to expect everyone to have the same, or even similar, ideas of "common sense", "stupidity" or "intelligence". Just like RetroXYZ, there are lots of different people that go here.

Yes, the job of a moderator here is not easy, but that is no excuse to go nuts with this twisted and dictatorial hunt by the staff to make a perfect (in their minds) MFGG. That's not a valid excuse at all.


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QUOTE (RetroXYZ @ Jul 23 2009, 07:47 PM)
3 admins, 4 global mods, and 4 regular mods to moderate the entire thing.

TD and Techokami have admin powers too.


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In my opinion it would be best if the moderators to stop permabanning members and instead give out month bans and a year ban.

PeramBanning should basically be used for extreme matters. For and example a hacker hacks the site.


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QUOTE (Tony Trombone @ Jul 24 2009, 02:01 AM)
Terms like "common sense" and "stupidity" are thrown around (yes, they are thrown around) like you think that if you post it enough times (or in big enough letters), everyone will suddenly "get it". That's not the case. That is the opinion and, like RetroXYZ said, interpretation of the moderation. It is very unreasonable to expect everyone to have the same, or even similar, ideas of "common sense", "stupidity" or "intelligence". Just like RetroXYZ, there are lots of different people that go here.

Yes, the job of a moderator here is not easy, but that is no excuse to go nuts with this twisted and dictatorial hunt by the staff to make a perfect (in their minds) MFGG. That's not a valid excuse at all.

All we're doing is telling you we're gonna enforce the rules a bit more now. You guys get cut retarded amounts of slack all the time.

Oh also why are we the bad guys now. Posting coolface.jpg doesn't seem like a 'good guy' thing to do.


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QUOTE (Flamedragon @ Jul 23 2009, 08:27 PM)
In my opinion it would be best if the moderators to stop permabanning members and instead give out month bans and a year ban.

PeramBanning should basically be used for extreme matters. For and example a hacker hacks the site.

Or if a member does many, MANY things wrong.


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