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Posted: Jul 28 2009, 12:14 PM
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QUOTE (Elyk @ Jul 28 2009, 11:13 AM)
usually those are clarified when introduced

not several days later

Can I introduce you to The United States Constitution?

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html


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Posted: Jul 28 2009, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE (Marigi @ Jul 28 2009, 01:14 PM)
Can I introduce you to The United States Constitution?

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html

I didn't know Forum Rules 6.0 was as complex as the US Constitution

you learn something new every day

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Posted: Jul 28 2009, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE (Elyk @ Jul 28 2009, 11:20 AM)
I didn't know Forum Rules 6.0 was as complex as the US Constitution

you learn something new every day

Never said they were, however, I think it's dumb for you to say that all rules should go without any clarification EVER.

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Posted: Jul 28 2009, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE (Marigi @ Jul 28 2009, 01:21 PM)
Never said they were, however, I think it's dumb for you to say that all rules should go without any clarification EVER.

I never said that either.

I just said that if a rule needed to be clarified then there was something wrong with it. A rule needing clarification signals that it may need adjustment or termination. Just like the rules in the US Constitution if you want to continue with that comparison!

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Posted: Jul 28 2009, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE (Elyk @ Jul 28 2009, 11:26 AM)
I never said that either.

I just said that if a rule needed to be clarified then there was something wrong with it. A rule needing clarification signals that it may need adjustment or termination. Just like the rules in the US Constitution if you want to continue with that comparison!

I don't think because something needs clarification that there is something wrong with it.

Especially when it only needs clarifying to a select trouble members of MFGG.


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Posted: Jul 28 2009, 12:54 PM
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would you honestly rather have "don't be dumb" over this
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Posted: Jul 28 2009, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE (Elyk @ Jul 28 2009, 06:20 PM)
I didn't know Forum Rules 6.0 was as complex as the US Constitution

you learn something new every day

There you have it.

Note: "you" used in this reply is not used to adress Elyk, but all those who constantly complain about everything we do. If you don't have any problems with the rules, you're not adressed, but maybe you should read this nevertheless.

See, we are not a democracy, not a country, and most certainly we do not have politicians and scientists who spend years to figure out flawless rules, with getting PAID on top of that.

We are doing this for free, and because we love this board and the community.

I really wish we would get paid money and could write a 100 page constitution for the MFGG message boards that everyone understands by just looking at them, but that's not the case.
We have to live with the ideas we think might work out and with trial and error.

Either live with the rules we make, list SOLUTIONS instead of PROBLEMS, or simply accept that you can't have everything.
We would be nothing without the members, so I don't know why anyone could think we would piss them off on purpose.
If we wouldn't care about you, we would not have to bother to make rules at all.
All we would need to do is to ban everyone who we don't like, but instead we make new rules, experiment with new systems, and spend days and weeks and months to make the system more fair and easier understandable, but everytime we come up with something that is supposed to please you, there will be always the same guys who complain that this is not right and that is not good, and that not in a constructive way, but in a "all staff is evil and hates the members" way.

Trust me, we could have a WAY easier life if we would just handle the board in the way you're accusing us to do it. Instead of typing up this post for example which costs me a LOT of my time, I could just lock the topic and perma-ban everyone who has said anything against the staff in an aggressive manner.


Spend only a single day thinking up a masterplan that solves all problems we have and PM it to me, I'd be glad.
I'd even be glad if you had a non-master plan that solves only ONE problem without causing other problems.


Yes, we have made mistakes in the past, and we will make them in the future, there you have it. It's not like this has been said for the first time but maybe another two or three people get it now.
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Posted: Jul 28 2009, 01:45 PM
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some part of me thinks the new spam rating and reaction image rules came from people who PM quackers about problems on this board


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Posted: Jul 28 2009, 01:53 PM
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Either live with the rules we make, list SOLUTIONS instead of PROBLEMS, or simply accept that you can't have everything.

Please enlighten me on exactly what this means, because it makes little sense in my mind.

Every time I see anyone talk about any of the rules, for any reason, except when they agree with them, it's "stop complaining and live with it." You also need to keep in mind that sometimes a SOLUTION can't be reached without a PROBLEM being brought up.


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Posted: Jul 28 2009, 01:57 PM
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Here's a solution. Only enforce this rule in every board outside the CCC. Even then, as long as nobody's getting annoyed by it I think it should be fine. Only listen to reports by people who are getting trolled rather than suck-up tattle tale spectators who wouldn't understand the injoke between two forum members. There's a difference between trolling and kidding around.

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Posted: Jul 28 2009, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE (MegaMan @ Jul 28 2009, 07:57 PM)
Only listen to reports by people who are getting trolled rather than suck-up tattle tale spectators who wouldn't understand the injoke between two forum members. There's a difference between trolling and kidding around.

This already happens.

EDIT: Or, *should* happen. PM me cases after the posting of this topic, where you think somebody has been punished for a irrational report. I will then talk to the moderator who did it and try to clear up the situation.
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Posted: Jul 28 2009, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE (MrGuy @ Jul 28 2009, 11:12 AM)
...seriously, guys? Why all the complaining? Can someone please explain to me why being able to post troll ratings is so important to MFGG? It's not productive, and it's not necessary. I haven't seen anyone actually given solid reasons to why being able to post "10/10 I RAGED" to a post they don't like is so important. All I'm seeing is a small vocal minority of MFGGers complaining because of this small and ultimately inconsequential change.

The complaining obviously isn't related to people thinking this violates their "MFGG freedom of speech"; if it was, then I'm sure there would be people campaigning to remove the flaming rules and stupidity rule. But, surprise! There aren't any.

I get that MFGG as a whole is scared of change and whatnot, but is it really necessary to complain and complain on and on about every small change that the mod team decides to implement, even the positive ones? These new rules probably won't affect most people here anyway (and if they do, it's probably time to stop posting crying baby pictures).

The new rules make complete sense to me, and I'm wondering why they hadn't been implemented already.

this guy embodies my opinion exactly

there are more effective ways of rating things.


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Posted: Jul 28 2009, 02:21 PM
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oh god forbid the 3 people that get mad over reaction images and troll ratings have a bad time here

just because the people complaining don't like it, that does NOT MEAN THE PEOPLE THAT DO LIKE IT HAVE NO SAY IN THE MATTER

its almost like you are saying "the people that said it was bad are annoyed by it so the ones that don't do not exist in 'our' eyes"

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Posted: Jul 28 2009, 02:24 PM
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plus mods and admins are spending more time on enforcing the fake troll ratings rule that they are forgetting about the crap topics and posts that have been showing up lately in the CCC. banning spritanium and mason just because they have a ****ing opinion will not help this board.


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Posted: Jul 28 2009, 02:24 PM
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why should they get rid of the troll rating ban when only 3 members have a problem with it
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Posted: Jul 28 2009, 02:24 PM
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...You don't honestly believe he was banned because of an opinion, do you.


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Posted: Jul 28 2009, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE (Parakarry @ Jul 28 2009, 03:24 PM)
...You don't honestly believe he was banned because of an opinion, do you.

yes

acctually

i do


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Posted: Jul 28 2009, 02:28 PM
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Having an opinion was never bannable, that would be stupid if it was.


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Posted: Jul 28 2009, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE (Robbydude @ Jul 28 2009, 08:25 PM)
yes

acctually

i do

Then I wonder why you're still wandering around here, because I do not agree with your opinion.
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Posted: Jul 28 2009, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE (Guinea @ Jul 28 2009, 03:29 PM)
Then I wonder why you're still wandering around here, because I do not agree with your opinion.

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