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VinnyVideo
  Posted: Sep 14 2009, 12:07 PM
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This is a collection of almost all of the customized sprites and tiles I've used in my fangames of the past two years. A lot of it isn't much good, but there is some potentially useful stuff, like a SimCity-styled Barack Obama and George W. Bush, the green clothes/red hat Toad inspired by the old Nintendo Power comics, a good SMB3-compatible poisonous water sheet, a computer displaying the BSOD, a bottle of Bud Light, a 2-D stained-glass window, and a crude NES Zapper. Use as you please, but give credit if you remember. Not that I'm expecting any of you to actually use or like most of these.

Criticize these sprites as much as you want. But don't badmouth my Tirgy (the Marioy 2 yellow triangle guy)!

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Posted: Sep 14 2009, 12:45 PM
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Edits are not allowed AFAIK.


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VinnyVideo
Posted: Sep 14 2009, 01:35 PM
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Really, this is a compilation of almost all the stuff I've made myself in the past two years that I don't think would be accepted as a sprite on the MFGG main page. I would've put it on Submit-It, but Submit-It seems to be dead. Only some of this stuff is custom; the rest are edits. Sorry about that.


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Posted: Sep 14 2009, 01:37 PM
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Some of the stuff there is badly resized.

Take a tutorial/learn from others.

That's what I did.


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VinnyVideo
Posted: Sep 15 2009, 07:13 AM
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I'm working on being a better spriter. These are my earliest efforts, along with a bit of non-original stuff mixed in. Also, there are about six different games of mine represented here.


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Posted: Sep 15 2009, 07:38 AM
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Some of it is "creative" but:

- As Thingy said, quite a bit of it are noticeable edits. Additionally, you include this statement:

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Use as you please, but give credit if you remember.


So wait. If I randomly decide to use that Toad edit, I'm suppose to specifically credit you, despite the fact that all you truly did was take the original ripped sprite from someone else and changed it's color pallete? Especially when I could create the same basic thing without having to credit you?

If anything, you should be the one crediting some of the people who ripped the sprites/took the photos that you're using before you ask for credit yourself. v.v


- Tirgy the triangle? It's not really badmouth, but it seems a bit silly to defend a three color sprite that looks like something a beginner would make, no?

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In conjunction with the editing issue, I'd like to point out that creating edits won't exactly help you become a better spriter. If anything, it'd probably teach you to rely more on other's labor.

Anything that looked custom in that sheet, to be blunt, looked pretty terrible. For those people below the toad, there's quite a bit to pick apart.

- Why is the head side-viewed, and the body is front view?
- The walking cycles on them seem pretty bad as well, considering it's two frames. It's fine to make 2-frame walks, however, the first frame appears to be the normal stand, while the 2nd only raises one side of the body. What, is their left halves paralyzed or something?
- The hair is strange on the short blond guys. It seems to stick too far out.
- Don't resize to show "flattened" people. It looks disgusting.



This is apparently two years of work, but to be honest, it seems more like two days, based on the vast majority of the sheet being ripped edited sprites, badly resized images, and poor custom sprites.
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VinnyVideo
Posted: Sep 15 2009, 07:46 AM
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I think the thing is I've relied almost exclusively on the work of others, rarely taking the time to make my own sprites, even though I started my first game (too bad for MFGG) slightly over two years ago.

The part about giving credit is a generic message I put on everything I make, from sprites to open-source games.

I love Tirgy, but if I use him again, I'm going to make him look nicer. This was my first custom enemy creation.

Oh, one more thing I did myself: An SM64 Bully/Chill Bully. This should've been there instead of the slightly-recolored Teddiursa.

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Posted: Sep 15 2009, 04:19 PM
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  I think the thing is I've relied almost exclusively on the work of others, rarely taking the time to make my own sprites, even though I started my first game (too bad for MFGG) slightly over two years ago.


That's basically what I just said.

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The part about giving credit is a generic message I put on everything I make, from sprites to open-source games.


When you ask for credit, it typically means that when the user makes something and they use something you make, you're basically telling them to put your name in their credits.

The © symbol is a bit of a different story, as it means that all of the stuff in that sheet was made by you. However, your stuff is mostly a just a bunch of edits made by other people's © stuff, so I'm not entirely sure if putting © would be appropriate.

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Oh, one more thing I did myself: An SM64 Bully/Chill Bully. This should've been there instead of the slightly-recolored Teddiursa.


That's an Ursaring. if I'm not mistaken. >.>
Also, your bullies have the same issues as your Tirgy and custom people. Very little shading, unfluid animations (There's better ways to show someone is walking, than just raising the foot up a single pixel), unedited line art, etc.

I don't mean to be harsh, but you could definitely improve a bit.

Ways to improve:

- Use tutorials and learn the basics of spriting, such shading, contrast, avoiding pillowshading, good lineart, etc.

- Take a look at other people's sprites. You don't need to necessarily copy their style, but you could definitely learn how to make your sprites better. Additionally, if they're animated, you may want to take a look at some of those. On MFGG, you'll want to look at sprites made by people such as Dex, Shyguy Grey, etc.

- If you're trying to remake something, like Mario in your own style, use references. Sprite references aren't as good, as you'll most likely end up copying the style slightly. The actual 3d models or artwork are better to use, as it should have the correct proportions, and you'll have a bit more freedom.


Don't let others deter you, and continue learning to sprite.
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VinnyVideo
Posted: Sep 20 2009, 11:02 AM
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I think you're right. That is an Ursaring - I just wasn't thinking. My next game, if I do one, will have more custom graphics, so I'll be using your advice. Thanks. And one more thing:

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Posted: Sep 20 2009, 11:04 AM
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Mods: Please undo the double post. Thanks.


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Posted: Sep 21 2009, 05:14 AM
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QUOTE (Soiyeruda @ Sep 15 2009, 07:38 AM)
If anything, you should be the one crediting some of the people who ripped the sprites/took the photos that you're using before you ask for credit yourself. v.v

Indeed.
By the way, Soiyeruda, I just checked and by the looks of it, Tirgy the Triangle is a four colour sprite.


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Posted: Sep 21 2009, 05:22 AM
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QUOTE (Ludwig22 @ Sep 21 2009, 07:14 PM)
By the way, Soiyeruda, I just checked and by the looks of it, Tirgy the Triangle is a four colour sprite.

I only use MS Paint to scale if I seriously need to check for certain issues with sprites so I didn't notice that the eyes were blue. :S
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