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write a procedure to calculate the sum of squares from 0 to n^2 (i.e. 0^2 + 1^2 + 2^2 + 3^2 + ... + (n-1)^2 + n^2)
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hint: all you need is a way to calculate (n+1)^2 in terms of n^2 and n

also it can be in any programming language you think is capable.

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QUOTE (Lightning @ Sep 19 2009, 05:50 PM)
also it can be in any programming language you think is capable.

i think this excludes zzt-oop

so i'm assuming 'no multiplication' also means 'no exponentiation'

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more specific: the only binary operators you are allowed to use are addition and subtraction.

the python implementation I came up with is pretty straightforward.


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you should only need three variables to do it. one of them is a loop counter and another is the return value


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QUOTE (Lightning @ Sep 19 2009, 06:11 PM)
you should only need three variables to do it. one of them is a loop counter and another is the return value

then what the hell am i doing using two variables


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f(n) = n^2 + f(n - 1)
n^2 = (n-1)^2 + 2n - 1

int f (n) {
sq = 0;
ret = 1;
for (i = 0; i < n; i++) {
sq += (i + i - 1)
ret += sq;
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return ret;
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function pows (to)
local c = 0
for i = 0, to do
c = c + i^2
end
return c
end

function ssq (to)
local c, d = 0, 0
for i = 0, to + to - 1 do
c = c + i + i
end
return c
end

go = 10

print(ssq(go), pows(go) == ssq(go))
print()

-- 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
-- 0, 1, 4, 9, 16, 25, 36, 49, 64, 81, 100
-- 1 3 5 7 9 11 13 15 17 19

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QUOTE (Retriever II @ Sep 19 2009, 08:16 PM)
f(n) = n^2 + f(n - 1)
n^2 = (n-1)^2 + 2n - 1

int f (n) {
  sq = 0;
  ret = 1;
  for (i = 0; i < n; i++) {
    sq += (i + i - 1)
    ret += sq;
  }
  return ret;
}

close, your math is slightly wrong. that minus should be a plus.
(also I think ret should start at 0)

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No, the minus should definitely be a minus (what should be changed is the < should be <=, which I didn't notice initially because so used to array looping). You're correct, ret's start value should be 0.

I originally wrote out a much longer recursive solution that should have been valid.


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QUOTE (Retriever II @ Sep 19 2009, 06:28 PM)
No, the minus should definitely be a minus (what should be changed is the < should be <=, which I didn't notice initially because so used to array looping). You're correct, ret's start value should be 0.

I originally wrote out a much longer recursive solution that should have been valid.

worked fine when i changed it to a plus


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QUOTE (Xgoff @ Sep 19 2009, 06:53 PM)
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Your right it should be plus in this case. Another off by one error!


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QUOTE (Retriever II @ Sep 19 2009, 06:31 PM)
Your right it should be plus in this case. Another off by one error!

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anyway here's the python solution:
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>>> def sumsq(n):
...     sum = 0
...     sq = 0
...     for i in range(0,n):
...             sq += i+i+1
...             sum += sq
...     return sum
...
>>> sumsq(10)
385


the logic behind it:
the sum of the first n+1 squares is (n+1)^2 + the sum of the first n squares.
the sum of the first 0 squares is 0. (alternatively, the sum of the first 1 squares is 1).

we can loop from 0 to n and calculate all the squares along the way, as long as we keep track of the previous x^2 and x, because we can use them to calculate the next square ((x+1)^2) using addition as follows:

(x+1)^2
= x^2 + 2x + 1
= x^2 + (x+x) + 1.

if we know x^2 and x from the previous loop iteration, this works.


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  1. girl genius: adventure! romance! mad science!
  2. punch an' pie: try a slice of life, then swallow.
  3. dresden codak: most interesting comic ever
quality web comics (one-shots):
  1. a softer world: truth and beauty bombs
  2. smbc: saturday morning breakfast cereal
  3. buttersafe: pictures and probably some words
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