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QUOTE (DJ Elly @ Sep 25 2009, 05:40 PM)
Get windows XP, install it, fiddle with it, then get linux and install it into another partition and fiddle with it.

Either one you can probably get easier low-end games working.
Don't get vista or windows 7. Yes, don't get 7. Why? Because even if 7 looks good now, it'll be even better later on. And dirt cheap once the next windows comes out.
And yes there's a new windows coming out.

Now, you might ask "So uh what distro do I get?" well, personally, I prefer xubuntu. It's clean and fast and if anything goes wrong, just google the problem and "ubuntu" and you usually get a good solution.
However, there's one thing still worrying me about linux. Tablet support, last time I tried, it wasn't really all that well supported.


And my opinion is the best one because it's the most impartial one regarding windows and linux. I have experienced both and I'd would so want the best of both worlds, but since that's not possible, the games made me settle with windows.

So, your opinion is one of two that makes me side with Linux in this forum, and with that I've heard 4 suggestions to get Linux.

(Yes, I know you were unbiased, but you mentioned games and tablet as a plus for Windows - and I use neither.)

Weirdly enough, you're the only one that, when talking about distros, differ - even if in the smalles detail: you suggested the ubuntu version that uses Xfce instead of the one using GNOME.

Well, thanks. When User A gets a 'puter, User A'll get Ubuntu.


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QUOTE (Bip @ Sep 25 2009, 08:33 PM)
it was made to have someone make it do what they want it to do.

Linux was originally one person who on one day thought "hey, I'll make an operating system." So, they showed it to a few other people, gave out the source, and several people helped and fixed errors in the code. Eventually, this became the Linux kernel today, GNU, and the Free Software Foundation.

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QUOTE (RetroXYZ @ Sep 25 2009, 05:54 PM)
Linux was originally one person who on one day thought "hey, I'll make an operating system."  So, they showed it to a few other people, gave out the source, and several people helped and fixed errors in the code.  Eventually, this became the Linux kernel today, GNU, and the Free Software Foundation.

That man is Linus Torvalds.

Also, http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/opinio...s-linux-windows
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds
There's information about Mr. Torvalds, if you're curious. Something interesting that I immediately noticed is that we both live in Portland OR.

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QUOTE (OniLink10 @ Sep 25 2009, 08:59 PM)
Linux is dying. sad.gif

It's not dying. It's just that distributions like Ubuntu, which are not as efficient, are more popular. If you really want an uber-efficient kernel that runs LIGHTNING-FAST, get slackware. Of course, I use Arch, which is the user-friendly-that-seems-unfriendly little brother of slackware.
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QUOTE (RetroXYZ @ Sep 25 2009, 07:00 PM)
It's not dying. It's just that distributions like Ubuntu, which are not as efficient, are more popular. If you really want an uber-efficient kernel that runs LIGHTNING-FAST, get slackware. Of course, I use Arch, which is the user-friendly-that-seems-unfriendly little brother of slackware.

I meant the Linux goal of no bloatware. I may try Arch.


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QUOTE (El Huesudo II @ Sep 26 2009, 01:53 AM)
So, your opinion is one of two that makes me side with Linux in this forum, and with that I've heard 4 suggestions to get Linux.

(Yes, I know you were unbiased, but you mentioned games and tablet as a plus for Windows - and I use neither.)

Weirdly enough, you're the only one that, when talking about distros, differ - even if in the smalles detail: you suggested the ubuntu version that uses Xfce instead of the one using GNOME.

Well, thanks. When User A gets a 'puter, User A'll get Ubuntu.

I was thinking you were going to watch youtubes, write documents and listen to music.
If that's all you need to do and want a easy to maintain system, xubuntu is well supported too.

Look, some people might not like Xfce and I can respect that. Try it, if you don't like it, switch.

It's a bad idea to suggest linux for everything. If it works for you, great, if it doesn't then something else is for you.

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QUOTE (DJ Elly @ Sep 25 2009, 10:09 PM)
Look, some people might not like Xfce and I can respect that. Try it, if you don't like it, switch.

GNOME, KDE, Xfce, LXDE, and maybe JWM are the only desktops I would ever use.

GNOME is the famous desktop used by most distros. It's like Firefox of desktops.
KDE is the Windows-ish desktop. Everything "magically" works in its own way, and everything starts with the letter K.
Xfce is the lightweight GNOME, for the most part. It's like the Chrome of desktops.
LXDE is the Win98 desktop or whatever you would call it. Simple, but you may like it.

To be honest, I would never recommend anything besides GNOME or Xfce, but you choose. Ubuntu only supports GNOME, KDE, and Xfce, however.

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If I use Linux, I would write my own and not use Ubuntu (there are some problems with it). However, with any Linux system you can use the command-line tools same on every one, and even compatible command-line with the older version too, so that's generally what I use, when I am working on a Linux computer. Really, one thing that makes Linux better is that you don't ever need the GUI (mostly, anyways), the command-line does everything you need to do. Windows is not UNIX based, but Linux and Mac OS X is, and also other operating systems, so the command-line programming is similar enough (although there are some differences you should have to know about). I should write a better distribution. Icons are not necessary, no background pictures have to be included in the distribution (you have to provide those yourself if you don't want a solid color), user-friendly is not necessary, and some other things is also not necessary. A web browser, and graphical e-mail, and stuff, shouldn't be included with the distribution, it can be a extra package. Programs like wget and net cat can be used for downloading the packages, or you can use a disk to load the programs.


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QUOTE (zzo38 @ Sep 25 2009, 08:52 PM)
If I use Linux, I would write my own and not use Ubuntu (there are some problems with it). However, with any Linux system you can use the command-line tools same on every one, and even compatible command-line with the older version too, so that's generally what I use, when I am working on a Linux computer. Really, one thing that makes Linux better is that you don't ever need the GUI (mostly, anyways), the command-line does everything you need to do. Windows is not UNIX based, but Linux and Mac OS X is, and also other operating systems, so the command-line programming is similar enough (although there are some differences you should have to know about). I should write a better distribution. Icons are not necessary, no background pictures have to be included in the distribution (you have to provide those yourself if you don't want a solid color), user-friendly is not necessary, and some other things is also not necessary. A web browser, and graphical e-mail, and stuff, shouldn't be included with the distribution, it can be a extra package. Programs like wget and net cat can be used for downloading the packages, or you can use a disk to load the programs.

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QUOTE (zzo38 @ Sep 25 2009, 07:52 PM)
If I use Linux, I would write my own and not use Ubuntu (there are some problems with it). However, with any Linux system you can use the command-line tools same on every one, and even compatible command-line with the older version too, so that's generally what I use, when I am working on a Linux computer. Really, one thing that makes Linux better is that you don't ever need the GUI (mostly, anyways), the command-line does everything you need to do. Windows is not UNIX based, but Linux and Mac OS X is, and also other operating systems, so the command-line programming is similar enough (although there are some differences you should have to know about). I should write a better distribution. Icons are not necessary, no background pictures have to be included in the distribution (you have to provide those yourself if you don't want a solid color), user-friendly is not necessary, and some other things is also not necessary. A web browser, and graphical e-mail, and stuff, shouldn't be included with the distribution, it can be a extra package. Programs like wget and net cat can be used for downloading the packages, or you can use a disk to load the programs.

this is a little off-topic, but

if given the choice between a ham sandwich or a slice of bread, which would you want
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QUOTE (B.M. @ Sep 25 2009, 08:54 PM)
this is a little off-topic, but

if given the choice between a ham sandwich or a slice of bread, which would you want

well there are some problems with ham so


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QUOTE (B.M. @ Sep 25 2009, 10:54 PM)
this is a little off-topic, but

if given the choice between a ham sandwich or a slice of bread, which would you want

You kidding me? He'd say no to both the bread and the ham sandwich and go about growing wheat to get his own bread.


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QUOTE (B.M. @ Sep 26 2009, 04:54 AM)
this is a little off-topic, but

if given the choice between a ham sandwich or a slice of bread, which would you want

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That man is Linux Torvalds.

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QUOTE (RetroXYZ @ Sep 25 2009, 09:16 PM)
GNOME, KDE, Xfce, LXDE, and maybe JWM are the only desktops I would ever use.

GNOME is the famous desktop used by most distros. It's like Firefox of desktops.
KDE is the Windows-ish desktop. Everything "magically" works in its own way, and everything starts with the letter K.
Xfce is the lightweight GNOME, for the most part. It's like the Chrome of desktops.
LXDE is the Win98 desktop or whatever you would call it. Simple, but you may like it.

To be honest, I would never recommend anything besides GNOME or Xfce, but you choose. Ubuntu only supports GNOME, KDE, and Xfce, however.

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QUOTE (zzo38 @ Sep 25 2009, 10:52 PM)
If I use Linux, I would write my own and not use Ubuntu (there are some problems with it). However, with any Linux system you can use the command-line tools same on every one, and even compatible command-line with the older version too, so that's generally what I use, when I am working on a Linux computer. Really, one thing that makes Linux better is that you don't ever need the GUI (mostly, anyways), the command-line does everything you need to do. Windows is not UNIX based, but Linux and Mac OS X is, and also other operating systems, so the command-line programming is similar enough (although there are some differences you should have to know about). I should write a better distribution. Icons are not necessary, no background pictures have to be included in the distribution (you have to provide those yourself if you don't want a solid color), user-friendly is not necessary, and some other things is also not necessary. A web browser, and graphical e-mail, and stuff, shouldn't be included with the distribution, it can be a extra package. Programs like wget and net cat can be used for downloading the packages, or you can use a disk to load the programs.

I have a feeling you'd be the kind of person running EvilWM on Slackware or Arch.

Scratch that; just X or even just a terminal.

Running a text browser in the terminal.

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QUOTE (zzo38 @ Sep 25 2009, 10:52 PM)
If I use Linux, I would write my own and not use Ubuntu (there are some problems with it). However, with any Linux system you can use the command-line tools same on every one, and even compatible command-line with the older version too, so that's generally what I use, when I am working on a Linux computer. Really, one thing that makes Linux better is that you don't ever need the GUI (mostly, anyways), the command-line does everything you need to do. Windows is not UNIX based, but Linux and Mac OS X is, and also other operating systems, so the command-line programming is similar enough (although there are some differences you should have to know about). I should write a better distribution. Icons are not necessary, no background pictures have to be included in the distribution (you have to provide those yourself if you don't want a solid color), user-friendly is not necessary, and some other things is also not necessary. A web browser, and graphical e-mail, and stuff, shouldn't be included with the distribution, it can be a extra package. Programs like wget and net cat can be used for downloading the packages, or you can use a disk to load the programs.

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QUOTE (Retriever II @ Sep 26 2009, 07:46 AM)
I don't want installing an OS to be like solving a soduko puzzle.

That's your problem, RII! You keep goddamned spelling your commands wrong.

> yum install soduko
"What the smurf is 'soduko'?"

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