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Posted: Oct 1 2009, 11:50 AM
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Posted: Oct 1 2009, 11:51 AM
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why cant i be an over achiever like you mrsa? why? why cant i write that much **** on a subject i don't give two rats asses about? i bet the subject of your essay was boring.


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Posted: Oct 1 2009, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE (Fierce Deity Saberie @ Oct 1 2009, 11:51 AM)
why cant i be an over achiever like you mrsa? why? why cant i write that much **** on a subject i don't give two rats asses about? i bet the subject of your essay was boring.

Being verbose does not necessarily denote over-achievement -- it simply means that one has trouble being concise.

It was boring, but I didn't just write "****" on the subject as you say. In college you don't get away with just BSing your paper through-and-through like you can in high school -- you can't just cram a 4-6 page paper full of fluffy intellectual-sounding nothingness and expect to get a passing grade.

Unfortunately, one of the skills you're going to have to learn for college is the ability to form a cohesive and complex thesis to defend and analyze on any subject, regardless of whether you like it or not.

QUOTE (Thingy @ Oct 1 2009, 11:50 AM)
Write tl;dr versions of every paragraph.

I did.

It's called an outline.

And I swear the world would be a better place if we completely got rid of the essay and implemented outlines in its place. They're more concise, less visually intimidating, and save everyone time.

</coming from an English major>

QUOTE (Empty @ Oct 1 2009, 11:43 AM)
wait, you have to stay within those limits?

I thought you could go over?

You could in high school where teachers really don't even read your papers, yeah, but not in college.

In college they don't just base your grade on the simple ability to form a few coherent sentences and a thesis that makes a decent amount of sense.

QUOTE (BurninLeo @ Oct 1 2009, 11:05 AM)
go through a thesaurus and select a shorter version of every single word in the essay

And risk looking like a bad writer that doesn't understand synonyms can have drastically different connotations?

I think not.


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Posted: Oct 1 2009, 01:35 PM
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QUOTE (Mrs. Aforcer @ Oct 1 2009, 01:12 PM)
-- you can't just cram a 4-6 page paper full of fluffy intellectual-sounding nothingness--

then what did you write that took up 8 pages? goddamn most of the sentences i write only have like three or four words on them without the nothingness


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Posted: Oct 1 2009, 01:41 PM
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I feel your pain. I'm terrible at shortening things.

I say you should look through the whole thing and take out the parts that you may be able to do without. That's usually how I shorten things.


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Posted: Oct 1 2009, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE (Pip @ Sep 30 2009, 09:50 PM)
if you can't get to the point in 4-6 pages, you're doing something wrong

I completely agree with you. I hate it when people can't get to the point and they drone on and on. You could say something in a shorter way but a lot of people just keep talking and talking. I know you weren't referring to people in general, but I'm just saying. Why would you write or say something incredibly long when you could just give a quick answer? It's annoying, repeatitive and reduntant.

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Posted: Oct 1 2009, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE (Fierce Deity Saberie @ Oct 1 2009, 01:35 PM)
then what did you write that took up 8 pages? goddamn most of the sentences i write only have like three or four words on them without the nothingness

I summarized, analyzed, compared, and contrasted two 200-page books.

Admittedly, there was a bit of redundancy and some prepositional phrases that weren't completely needed, which I have since cut out (seeing as the paper is due today), but I try not to write sentences that after weeding through the "fluff," there's nothing left that's really intellectual or analytical -- I kind of got out of writing like that after 3rd year high school English.


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Posted: Oct 1 2009, 03:10 PM
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what are these books you wrote about


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Posted: Oct 1 2009, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE (DJ Elly @ Oct 1 2009, 04:57 AM)
But here's what you do. First you cut out just enough to make it, put in a folder, write the name of the essay on the folder.

Then you make another folder with the unedited essay and label it "essay name - directors cut" and write exciting things as "2 entire never before seen pages." on it.

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Posted: Oct 1 2009, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE (Fierce Deity Saberie @ Oct 1 2009, 03:10 PM)
what are these books you wrote about

Laboring Women, by Jennifer L. Morgan, and Out of the House of Bondage, by Thavolia Glymph. They're both historical analyses of slave women's role in the antebellum South.

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Posted: Oct 1 2009, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE (Mrs. Aforcer @ Oct 1 2009, 04:17 PM)
Out of the House of Bondage

inb4 bondage joke


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Posted: Oct 1 2009, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE (Mikau @ Oct 1 2009, 03:21 PM)
inb4 bondage joke

Is it wrong that was the first thing I thought, too, when I saw the book on the syllabus?


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its got the word bondage in it so of course


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Posted: Oct 1 2009, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE (Mrs. Aforcer @ Oct 1 2009, 04:26 PM)
Is it wrong that was the first thing I thought, too, when I saw the book on the syllabus?

did you make a bondage joke in your paper


because if i was your prof. if that's ALL you wrote i would give you a perfect score


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QUOTE (Mikau @ Oct 1 2009, 03:27 PM)
did you make a bondage joke in your paper


because if i was your prof. if that's ALL you wrote i would give you a perfect score

Ah, if only professors in college actually appreciated humour and creativity...!


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Posted: Oct 1 2009, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE (Mrs. Aforcer @ Oct 1 2009, 04:27 PM)
Ah, if only professors in college actually appreciated humour and creativity...!

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QUOTE (Mikau @ Oct 1 2009, 03:31 PM)
NO FUN ALLOWED

SMART PEOPLE CAN'T HAVE FUN THEY JUST DO HOMEWORK ALL DAY

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I usually tried to get to the freakin' point while the provided format seemed to be designed to account for nonessential fluff.

I.E "OH THIS BOOK IS SO WONDERFUL AND FULL OF MEANING *insert author butt-kissing" as opposed "This implies _____ and here's why..."

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i hated writing essays for school. they seem to require that you do not apply abstract thought at all.

all my essays feel very robotic and unnatural. every time i get a question where i feel like i actually know what i'm talking about (video games, etc.), but may not strictly follow what i'm taught in the syllabus, i get a fail despite my writing being considerably more natural and the teacher being unable to debunk my ideas.

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Posted: Oct 1 2009, 07:22 PM
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My old high school required us to write a five page research paper (this doesn't include the work cited) on top of all the other state requirements in order to graduate. ph34r.gif


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