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Grandfather Paradox?, LHC sabotaging itself! *old*

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NICKtendo DS

Posted: Oct 16 2009, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE (Kyori @ Oct 16 2009, 11:28 PM)

I think the point here is that you don't know what time is and whether it can be influenced, just like everybody else.

You keep talking about things as if this has all been proven and is a law. It hasn't.

It's called "philosophy".

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Posted: Oct 16 2009, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE (NICKtendo DS @ Oct 16 2009, 02:21 PM)

I question that logic.
Even if matter travels at infinity km/h, it's still per hour. Even if it's per minute, per second, millisecond, nanosecond, yoctosecond it's still progressing in time. Also, time isn't a matter, so how can it warp?

Maybe there are areas in space where time slows down, but the ageing process should slow down respectively. Still, a second there is a second here. It's like when you're bored, time seems to slow down, and time speeds up when you enjoy yourself. Time itself did not change. And even if it did, reversal in time is physically impossible.

Have you ever actually tried to understand Einstein's Theory of Relativity?
Speed is always relative. Always. So is Time. If you were to go the speed of light, time around you would warp so much that it would appear frozen. If you were to go faster than that, time would warp enough that Time would appear to be going backwards. It's completely relative. Gravity is the warping of both space and time due to the presence of matter.

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QUOTE (Xgoff @ Sep 10 2009 @ 06:11 PM)

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Morshu McPhereson	Posted: Oct 16 2009, 05:02 PM
Who's got the sweetest disposition? Group: Members Posts: 20184 Member No.: 685 Joined: 23-November 04 Status: (0d)	Uh... time is like a wheel of cheese. It has a bunch of holes!!! j/k, but these "scientists" seem to be incredibly stupid.

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QUOTE (OniLink10 @ Oct 16 2009, 02:25 PM)

I agree that Quarks can do this. Time can be easily manipulated. The faster matter travels, the more time warps around it. Time is also warped more when there is more matter. It could be that splitting a Proton into Quarks causes the Quarks to travel so fast that they warp time enough to travel backwards in time, allowing them to damage the Particle Accelerator that separated them from each other.

i don't think quarks have imaginary mass

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Posted: Oct 16 2009, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE (NICKtendo DS @ Oct 16 2009, 09:31 PM)

It's called "philosophy".

QUOTE (NICKtendo DS @ Oct 16 2009, 08:12 PM)

It's just that SCIENTISTS who think time can be changed, let alone REVERSED, shouldn't be called SCIENTISTS in the first place, unless they're imaginary 'course.

This isn't philosophy.

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Posted: Oct 16 2009, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE (Pip @ Oct 16 2009, 02:30 PM)

except for that whole fourth dimension we're in

you know, time

First of all, time is not the fourth dimension, all the dimensions refer to physical planes

Second of all, there appear to be 11 dimensions proven by quantum mechanics

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Posted: Oct 16 2009, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE (El Huesudo II @ Oct 16 2009, 03:41 PM)

First of all, time is not the fourth dimension, all the dimensions refer to physical planes

Second of all, there appear to be 11 dimensions proven by quantum mechanics

So you are saying Einstein's Theory of Relativity is false? Because the whole theory is based on the assumption that time is the 4th dimension.

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QUOTE (Xgoff @ Sep 10 2009 @ 06:11 PM)

did you try hello's engine

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QUOTE (Xgoff @ Oct 16 2009, 03:16 PM)

i don't think quarks have imaginary mass

Quarks are what give objects mass.

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QUOTE (Xgoff @ Sep 10 2009 @ 06:11 PM)

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Posted: Oct 16 2009, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE (El Huesudo II @ Oct 16 2009, 05:41 PM)

First of all, time is not the fourth dimension, all the dimensions refer to physical planes

Second of all, there appear to be 11 dimensions proven by quantum mechanics

I know how many dimensions there are

and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime

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Posted: Oct 16 2009, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE (OniLink10 @ Oct 16 2009, 10:43 PM)

Quarks are what give objects mass.

Isn't that the Higgs Boson?

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Posted: Oct 16 2009, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE (OniLink10 @ Oct 16 2009, 05:42 PM)

So you are saying Einstein's Theory of Relativity is false? Because the whole theory is based on the assumption that time is the 4th dimension.

The Theory of Relativity is that: a theory.

By this I don't mean it fake. I mean that there are other theories, and among them, there's the quantum theory, that I fancy.

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Posted: Oct 16 2009, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE (OniLink10 @ Oct 16 2009, 04:43 PM)

Quarks are what give objects mass.

electrons have mass but aren't made up of quarks

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Posted: Oct 16 2009, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE (Kyori @ Oct 16 2009, 03:55 PM)

Isn't that the Higgs Boson?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quark
Up and Down Quarks have the least masses of all the Quarks, implying that all Quarks have mass.

EDIT: Also, Bosons are Forces, not matters, according to Wikipedia's little chart right here

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QUOTE (Xgoff @ Sep 10 2009 @ 06:11 PM)

did you try hello's engine

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Posted: Oct 16 2009, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE (Xgoff @ Oct 16 2009, 04:00 PM)

electrons have mass but aren't made up of quarks

I thought they just had charge, not mass. Looks like they do have mass, but it's such little mass it barely even matters.

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QUOTE (Xgoff @ Sep 10 2009 @ 06:11 PM)

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Posted: Oct 16 2009, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE (OniLink10 @ Oct 16 2009, 05:10 PM)

I thought they just had charge, not mass. Looks like they do have mass, but it's such little mass it barely even matters.

but it is mass

so therefore your "quarks are what give objects mass" statement holds no water unless you're trying to argue it like "this lamp is made up of protons and neutrons which are made up of quarks so technically quarks are giving it mass"

W and Z bosons have half the mass of a top quark which is the most massive one, and have a LOT more mass than the bottom quark which is second, yet like electrons i believe are not made up of quarks

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QUOTE (El Huesudo II @ Oct 16 2009, 03:57 PM)

The Theory of Relativity is that: a theory.

By this I don't mean it fake. I mean that there are other theories, and among them, there's the quantum theory, that I fancy.

Did you know Scientists are trying to link together every Physics Theory? Quantum Gravity is a combination of the Theory of Relativity and the Quantum Theory.

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QUOTE (Xgoff @ Sep 10 2009 @ 06:11 PM)

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Posted: Oct 16 2009, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE (NICKtendo DS @ Oct 16 2009, 01:05 PM)

There is no spaghetti monster. Otherwise we couldn't speak of it.

Sorry to burst your bubble here, pasta people.

what the hell

stop bashing my religion

the flying spaghetti monster is as plain as meatballs, and just because His noodly appendage keeps hiding his existance from you, doesn't mean he isn't there

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Posted: Oct 17 2009, 03:20 AM

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QUOTE (OniLink10 @ Oct 16 2009, 11:26 PM)

The faster matter travels, and the more matter there is in one place, the more time is warped.

I just thought of something.

What if antimatter "unwarps" time and slows it down, and if there was enough antimatter that travels really fast, could it reverse time?

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Posted: Oct 17 2009, 04:50 AM

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QUOTE (Kyori @ Oct 17 2009, 12:21 AM)

This isn't philosophy.

Scientists should spend their time on something more useful than chasing their sci-fi fantasies.

@B.M.: I wasn't told by the monster itself in confidence that he doesn't exists.

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QUOTE (NICKtendo DS @ Oct 17 2009, 05:50 AM)

Scientists should spend their time on something more useful than chasing their sci-fi fantasies.

Isn't that... what being a scientist basically is?

Also, some of their pursuits always have a chance of proving fruitful for mankind.

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