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Posted: Oct 22 2009, 12:32 PM
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Nokia is suing Apple over the iPhone, claiming patent infringement for GSM, UMTS and wireless LAN (WLAN) standards.
Nokia licenses these technologies to other companies but says Apple has not paid for the right to use them ever.

Ilkka Rahnasto, Nokia's VP  Legal & Intellectual Property, says in a release, "By refusing to agree appropriate terms for Nokia's intellectual property, Apple is attempting to get a free ride on the back of Nokia's innovation."

Yawn.

Nokia should focus on trying to build a better product.

Here's the release:

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Espoo, Finland - Nokia announced that it has today filed a complaint against Apple with the Federal District Court in Delaware, alleging that Apple's iPhone infringes Nokia patents for GSM, UMTS and wireless LAN (WLAN) standards. As a leading innovator in wireless communications, Nokia has created one of the strongest and broadest patent portfolios in the industry, investing more than EUR 40 billion in R&D during the last two decades. Much of this intellectual property, including the patents in suit, has been declared essential to industry standards. Nokia has already successfully entered into license agreements including these patents with approximately 40 companies, including virtually all the leading mobile device vendors, allowing the industry to benefit from Nokia's innovation.

The ten patents in suit relate to technologies fundamental to making devices which are compatible with one or more of the GSM, UMTS (3G WCDMA) and wireless LAN standards. The patents cover wireless data, speech coding, security and encryption and are infringed by all Apple iPhone models shipped since the iPhone was introduced in 2007.

"The basic principle in the mobile industry is that those companies who contribute in technology development to establish standards create intellectual property, which others then need to compensate for," said Ilkka Rahnasto, Vice President, Legal & Intellectual Property at Nokia. "Apple is also expected to follow this principle. By refusing to agree appropriate terms for Nokia's intellectual property, Apple is attempting to get a free ride on the back of Nokia's innovation."

During the last two decades, Nokia has invested approximately EUR 40 billion in research and development and built one of the wireless industry's strongest and broadest IPR portfolios, with over 10,000 patent families. Nokia is a world leader in the development of GSM technologies and its evolution to UMTS / 3G WCDMA as well as wireless LAN, which is also demonstrated by Nokia's strong patent position in these technologies.

But hold on, there is more (same site, different link)
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Nokia's lawsuit against Apple over patent infringement on 10 wireless technologies appears to be a battle for pocket change.
Nokia (NOK) is looking to collect a 1%-2% patent royalty -- worth around $6-$12 -- off each iPhone sold, according to a note from Piper Jaffray's Gene Munster.

Apple's (AAPL) iPhone unit sales to date are around 34 million, so it would owe Nokia between $200-$400 million if Nokia is successful. Munster notes the $12 figure is unlikely.

For both of these companies, that's a rounding error, and it makes Nokia look silly for trying to extract money from Apple while failing to build competitive products.

Nokia has apparently been talking to Apple about this for over a year now.

This is going to be interesting case to watch. At least Nokia didn't file it in the state of Texas.

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Posted: Oct 22 2009, 12:45 PM
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Why can't they just focus on making things other than lawsuits?


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Posted: Oct 22 2009, 12:59 PM
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"nokia should work on releasing a better product?"

excuse me. nokia already had a better product than the iPhone, before the iPhone even ****in' came out. they just fail at marketing.

and as if that wasn't enough, they have an even better one in the works: http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/


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Posted: Oct 22 2009, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE (Lightning @ Oct 22 2009, 01:59 PM)
"nokia should work on releasing a better product?"

excuse me. nokia already had a better product than the iPhone, before the iPhone even ****in' came out. they just fail at marketing.

and as if that wasn't enough, they have an even better one in the works: http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/

That phone looks beautiful.

Personally, I hope that Nokia wins. Then again, I am HUGELY against iPhone and iPood and Apple in general, so anything against them I like.


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Posted: Oct 22 2009, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE (Elixer @ Oct 22 2009, 01:06 PM)
That phone looks beautiful.

Personally, I hope that Nokia wins. Then again, I am HUGELY against iPhone and iPood and Apple in general, so anything against them I like.

That phones does look good, doesn't it? I'm against apple as well, not because of the iphone (which i don't have), but because they released ****ty computers known as Macs.

No offense to Mac lovers out there.

I think I'm going to toon into this case for about 2 days before it bores me out.


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Posted: Oct 22 2009, 01:44 PM
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Pardon my puns, but Nokia is going to take a bite out of Apple.


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Posted: Oct 22 2009, 03:19 PM
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I hope Nokia wins, only for the reason that it's a Finnish company.
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Posted: Oct 22 2009, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE (Lightning @ Oct 22 2009, 11:59 AM)
and as if that wasn't enough, they have an even better one in the works: http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/

**** you why did you have to show me that

i only have a 6126 lol


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