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Posted: Nov 5 2009, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE (Mikau @ Oct 30 2009, 01:33 PM)
it's funny how you need something to use other applications on better OSes

hey, I'm going to make an OS

I'll call it windows

I could use that cool executable format that everyone else uses

but instead I'll create a standard!

oh btw screw mime types file extensions are better

also, how the hell will upgrading Ubuntu affect WINE's performance on GM6 and GM7 EXEs

(for the record, I'm not trying to start a flame war; I'm just pointing out bad arguments)

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Posted: Nov 5 2009, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE (RetroXYZ @ Nov 5 2009, 05:09 PM)
hey, I'm going to make an OS

I'll call it windows

I could use that cool executable format that everyone else uses

but instead I'll create a standard!

oh btw screw mime types file extensions are better

also, how the hell will upgrading Ubuntu affect WINE's performance on GM6 and GM7 EXEs

(for the record, I'm not trying to start a flame war; I'm just pointing out bad arguments)

GM6 and GM7 are still badly supported. D:
Also, you'll need to make the X.org configuration files BLANK, or it will go to a black screen while booting. :S


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Posted: Nov 5 2009, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE (OniLink10 @ Nov 5 2009, 08:31 PM)
GM6 and GM7 are still badly supported. D:
Also, you'll need to make the X.org configuration files BLANK, or it will go to a black screen while booting. :S

Yes, but he asked how updating Ubuntu will affect an external application.


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Posted: Nov 5 2009, 07:45 PM
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Ok, misread Retro's Post.
Linux Distributions are just modifications of the Linux Kernel+whatever external programs the OS comes with.
New Ubuntu versions are typically major rewrites of the modifications done to the Linux Kernel.
New Kernel Version in upgrade+New Modifications in Upgrade will most likely have an effect on how well WINE can emulate programs, since the Kernel is different in newer versions of both the Kernel and Ubuntu.


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Posted: Nov 5 2009, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE (OniLink10 @ Nov 5 2009, 08:45 PM)
Ok, misread Retro's Post.
Linux Distributions are just modifications of the Linux Kernel+whatever external programs the OS comes with.
New Ubuntu versions are typically major rewrites of the modifications done to the Linux Kernel.
New Kernel Version in upgrade+New Modifications in Upgrade will most likely have an effect on how well WINE can emulate programs, since the Kernel is different in newer versions of both the Kernel and Ubuntu.

The kernel is not the shell.

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Posted: Nov 5 2009, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE (RetroXYZ @ Nov 5 2009, 06:13 PM)
The kernel is not the shell.

True, but all(or most)Linux Distros have modifications to the Linux Kernel. Go to the Package Manager and search linux-source. Now read the description.


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QUOTE (OniLink10 @ Nov 5 2009, 09:25 PM)
Linux

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.


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Posted: Nov 5 2009, 09:29 PM
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I'm starting to prefer a "rolling release" model for upgrades (like Arch) over the incremental releases that distros like Ubuntu and Fedora have. Arch is definitely much more difficult to set up than more mainstream distros, though.



QUOTE (Mikau @ Nov 5 2009, 09:09 PM)
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

he said "the Linux Kernel." he did not use "Linux" in error and was not referring to the GNU/Linux operating system. spamming the GC is cool.


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Posted: Nov 5 2009, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE (Lightning @ Nov 5 2009, 10:29 PM)
I'm starting to prefer a "rolling release" model for upgrades (like Arch) over da incremental releases that distros like Ubuntu and Fedora have. Arch is definitely much more difficult to set up than more mainstream distros, though.

Ubuntu 9.4 failing to upgrade from 8.10 was one of da reasons I decided to switch to something else. I upgraded completely from GNOME 2.26 to 2.28 and it didn't fail at all; all I had to do was configure some of da new features (like not sholoseg icons by default).
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Posted: Nov 5 2009, 09:53 PM
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windows is clearly garbage in contrast to linux for reasons I do not feel like explaining

QUOTE (Mikau @ Nov 5 2009, 06:09 PM)
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

would negakitten.
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QUOTE (MikeL @ Nov 6 2009, 04:10 AM)
windows is clearly garbage in contrast to linux for reasons I do not feel like explaining


would negakitten.

Hi opinions.

The only things I don't like about Linux are its bad support for many programs, and its occasional tech errors, mostly in the GPU.

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QUOTE (Nystre @ Nov 5 2009, 12:07 PM)
... because you can't download it for free and install it on any computer or anything


Not at all!

My laptop is too old to take sufficient advantage of the OS, and I fear many of my hardware components will lack drivers.

Thus, I've been wanting a new computer for a while now, and when I do get one, I will likely get one that I can put Ubuntu on.


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QUOTE (Mikau @ Nov 6 2009, 04:09 AM)
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

completely unnecessary, even the first time. Spam.


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