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Posted: Jul 16 2005, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE (Mario Gamer @ Jul 16 2005, 03:18 PM)
Xbox's was way to big and too hard to grip. Even with the smaller one. Gamecube got it right the first time, easy to hold, fits perfectly in your hand. PS2's just didn't do that for me. However Xbox did have better graphics but I would say the controller is more important then the graphics. Even more since the graphics were all close on all three systems.

I just think a controller needs to be fairly big, not like original Xbox big but ya...
I noticed the most complained thing about PS2 is the loading times, God, who really cares, if it is a good game, you can afford to wait an extra 6 seconds, you don't want to wait go back to the NES.


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Posted: Jul 16 2005, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE (BlazeShad @ Jul 16 2005, 02:28 PM)
I just think a controller needs to be fairly big, not like original Xbox big but ya...
I noticed the most complained thing about PS2 is the loading times, God, who really cares, if it is a good game, you can afford to wait an extra 6 seconds, you don't want to wait go back to the NES.

Gamecube hardly had any loading times, and if it did it was from ported games from PS2 or Xbox. That's another reason I choose Gamecube.


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Posted: Jul 16 2005, 02:43 PM
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I do agree that this is the worst generation of video game consoles for Nintendo yet, but yeah. The new Zelda is the reason to keep the Gamecube, BlazeShad. That is, unless you're not into that sort of game. I suggest waiting for the next-gen console wave, as all the next-gen consoles look impressive.


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For me.. the Dreamcast controller was the best. Not that much of a buttons and well... it felt good in my hands. The Gamecube controller also has a very comfortable feeling in the hands. Too bad I don't like the buttons and the sticks are very annoying. Fingers keep slipping off sad.gif The xbox controller (both vanilla and S) are not 'chilling' in my hands but the sticks are very comfortable for my fingers. The PS2 controller is just a no no. Not build for my hands.

In conclusion: Dreamcast buttons + Gamecube model + Xbox pads = t3h perfect controller in my opinion. Thanks for reading this crappy post.


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I like the Gamecube controller the best because it has differently shaped buttons. Whenever I play a PS2 game I keep having to glance down to make sure I'm pressing the X or O button or whatever because they're all the same exact shape.


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QUOTE (Nightwing @ Jul 16 2005, 08:04 PM)
Xbox with a better control scheme?

Actually, yeah. The Xboxes controller and control scheme suck ass. They just raped the design of the Dreamcast controller. I also can't think of one first party Xbox game, that has better control the a first party Gamecube game. Mario Sunshine, has some of the best control to date. As well as Zelda the Wind Waker. Kirby Air Ride. Starfox Adventures. OH AND THE LIST GOES ON!11116

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I hate the PS2 controller. The analog sticks just bothered be a lot. And the shoulder buttons, much like I dislike the Z button on the gamecube controller. I have never experienced the awesome ... mass, of the original xbox controller, so I won't comment on it. Have to say I like the Cube's the best, it just fits well, whether or not it has the most buttons.


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Posted: Jul 16 2005, 05:03 PM
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GCN is most comfortable for most people; some make the mistake of comparing a PS2 controller to the SNES, but even though there are some similarities in the button layout, it's pretty clear that the SNES controller was better crafted, despite being significantly older. The shoulder buttons are not so tiny or awkwardly out of reach, etc.

The Xbox controller S is smaller than the GCN standard controller, the standard Xbox controller is too large for any hand and is honestly painful to hold.

Out of all the current generation analog sticks, GCN's are the easiest to make distinctly precise motions with.

Also, despite its apparent "lack of buttons"; there has yet to be a decent game in recent memory that would require more than 7 (action) buttons to play with.

You would be better served to keep your GCN because it has:

Mario Party, Mario Tennis, Mario Sunshine, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, Resident Evil 4, Wario Ware Mega Party Games, Animal Crossing, Rogue Leader, Rebel Strike, Star Fox Assault, Smash Bros Melee, Mario Kart Double Dash, the best versions of Viewtiful Joe 1 and 2, the coolest Soul Calibur II bonus character, Legend of Zelda Four Swords (the best multiplayer experience on any home console ever), F-Zero GX, Kirby Air Ride, Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes... I mean dude you probably don't own even 25% of the titles I listed... do you own Metal Gear? It sounds like it'd be up your alley before you go peeing on Nintendo for using colorful, soft controllers and games that at least play better than their PS2 counterparts. I'd rather play Mario Party 6's mic mode than any lame rapper game on PS2, I think once you play Mecha Mayhem or whatever that mode is called; you'll understand.



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Posted: Jul 16 2005, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE (Nightwing @ Jul 16 2005, 06:03 PM)
GCN is most comfortable for most people; some make the mistake of comparing a PS2 controller to the SNES, but even though there are some similarities in the button layout, it's pretty clear that the SNES controller was better crafted, despite being significantly older. The shoulder buttons are not so tiny or awkwardly out of reach, etc.

The Xbox controller S is smaller than the GCN standard controller, the standard Xbox controller is too large for any hand and is honestly painful to hold.

Out of all the current generation analog sticks, GCN's are the easiest to make distinctly precise motions with.

Also, despite its apparent "lack of buttons"; there has yet to be a decent game in recent memory that would require more than 7 (action) buttons to play with.

You would be better served to keep your GCN because it has:

Mario Party, Mario Tennis, Mario Sunshine, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, Resident Evil 4, Wario Ware Mega Party Games, Animal Crossing, Rogue Leader, Rebel Strike, Star Fox Assault, Smash Bros Melee, Mario Kart Double Dash, the best versions of Viewtiful Joe 1 and 2, the coolest Soul Calibur II bonus character, Legend of Zelda Four Swords (the best multiplayer experience on any home console ever), F-Zero GX, Kirby Air Ride, Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes... I mean dude you probably don't own even 25% of the titles I listed... do you own Metal Gear? It sounds like it'd be up your alley before you go peeing on Nintendo for using colorful, soft controllers and games that at least play better than their PS2 counterparts. I'd rather play Mario Party 6's mic mode than any lame rapper game on PS2, I think once you play Mecha Mayhem or whatever that mode is called; you'll understand.

I don't like PS2, I like Xbox. I know all those titles you listed maybe four of them IMO qualify as "good". Infact, I have most of them and they don't really suit me, really, our opinion is so different because my favourite games are realistic FPS army games. Also unless San Andreas is considered a rapper game, I don't play any.


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Posted: Jul 16 2005, 06:28 PM
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Ok well I'll tell you this:

San Andreas is best on PC, as are most of your favorite Xbox games. You'll find much more satisfaction in FPSes with the following titles:

- Wolfenstein Enemy Territory (a free download at www.splashdamage.com)
- Half Life 2 (the best physics in a shooter ever, it's truly amazing to play online or single player, course it's still like $55 damn dollars, $35 is the lowest I've seen)
- Jedi Academy (yeah it's on Xbox, but what you want is this mod: www.moviebattles.com)
- TimeSplitters 3: Future Perfect (this is probably the one definitive shooter pick for Xbox)

I mean; I guess I could assess you based on one thing, if you think Halo is somehow better than Perfect Dark or Goldeneye you must be insane. But hopefully you don't think bland repeating levels going through tower after tower and wide open buildings with the same six enemies with nothing to do but kill-kill-kill is a good game; or else it may be clear why you're so lost here, you're mainstream and think CounterStrike is the best FPS ever made, or that if a game isn't full of enough **** and blood (although not necessarily at the same time) that something is wrong with it.

So if THAT is true; you must be Tommy Tallarico; but again, I hope I'm dead wrong... friend


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Posted: Jul 16 2005, 06:30 PM
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Errr; everyone is entitled to their own opinion but you can look at many a game and say one is better than another on a technical or artistic level, it's quite simple. In the same way, one can show someone a game like Counterstrike (source even), but there's so much more to be offered in a game like Enemy Territory (and it doesn't hurt that it's free). While a person may enjoy a terrible game, it's usually clear to the majority of the rational population that A is better than B.


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Posted: Jul 16 2005, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE (Nightwing @ Jul 16 2005, 07:28 PM)
Ok well I'll tell you this:

San Andreas is best on PC, as are most of your favorite Xbox games.  You'll find much more satisfaction in FPSes with the following titles:

- Wolfenstein Enemy Territory (a free download at www.splashdamage.com)
- Half Life 2 (the best physics in a shooter ever, it's truly amazing to play online or single player, course it's still like $55 damn dollars, $35 is the lowest I've seen)
- Jedi Academy (yeah it's on Xbox, but what you want is this mod:  www.moviebattles.com)
- TimeSplitters 3:  Future Perfect (this is probably the one definitive shooter pick for Xbox)

I mean; I guess I could assess you based on one thing, if you think Halo is somehow better than Perfect Dark or Goldeneye you must be insane.  But hopefully you don't think bland repeating levels going through tower after tower and wide open buildings with the same six enemies with nothing to do but kill-kill-kill is a good game; or else it may be clear why you're so lost here, you're mainstream and think CounterStrike is the best FPS ever made, or that if a game isn't full of enough **** and blood (although not necessarily at the same time) that something is wrong with it.

So if THAT is true; you must be Tommy Tallarico; but again, I hope I'm dead wrong... friend

I think SA is the worst on PC, I can't stand Enemy Territory. HL2, have that, love it, Jedi Academy, haven't touched, TimeSplitters 3, I was thinking of getting that since I played the Xbox demo but I beat TS2 on GCN and I still loved it. Yet for some reason I made a decision to not buy it.

I like Battefield 2 and Ghost Recon 2, find me some blood in those two army games. Also Call of Duty, has a TINY bit of blood, I like that too. Really just because I mention games that are gorey doesn't mean that is the only thing I touch. Just because I dislike a game that lacks strong violence doesn't mean I only like games with strong violence.

You really have to understand that my opinion and your opinion is not the same. Your opinion is what you like, not what I like, hence why it is your opinion. And that just because I like gorey games and not Mario doesn't mean I am a narrowminded FPS obsesser who won't even contemplate purchasing something that doesn't have blood.

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