The Rules For Drawing Competitions, I don't know why there aren't any yet.

Just for your vote banning thing, probably make a badge for that. Oh yeah, and a competition suspension badge too.

No. They shouldn't get a token or a graphic to show off for being an ass. Perhaps an un-eraseable (except to the admins) note could be put somewhere on their profile or their their user info on the side, but no badge. Or maybe something in the admin notes for the admins. Who knows. It can be worked out.

This post has been edited by Joey on Aug 18 2005, 11:22 AM

Guess why we don't have a skull badge anymore? Now, it is Klobber's personal ornament. Damn, how I wish I had my own personal ornament, being founder of MFGG and all... but that's besides the point. ;P

As for the rules, I feel you should specify a time frame in which final voting for competitions would last.

Done. I added at the top list "This will last ONE DAY."

hey guys I think the Skull badge should be awarded to me for having this name for a damn long time

This rule is crap. It's a competition. Who cares if someone uses someone else's idea? Whoever does the better picture will win.

But the point of a competition is finding the best picture, and the best picture is made up of:

Good art
Good idea

I can draw the best Yoshi ever, but that alone won't have much to do with "draw a mario character doing something piratey." Good art, but not a good idea, thus won't get many votes. You need both.
Allowing a copy of the exact same idea by drawing the exact same picture with the same poses and same things going on defeats half the purpose of the competition.

This post has been edited by Joey on Aug 18 2005, 05:30 PM

Let people choose why they vote for an entry. Making a rule out of what you think defines the best picture is bad. Not everybody feels the same way.

It's not a rule defining what's the best picture. SP, consider this: The competition is "draw mario characters doing something piratey." You work really hard for hours on end thinking of a really funny and original idea. Nobody else has thought of it, nobody else has spoken of it. You draw it. You're very proud of yourself, people comment on your art saying "wow! very original idea! i love it!" etc. Your entry is very original and very different compared to what everyone else has entered so far.

A day later, someone draws a picture that is THE EXACT SAME IDEA AS YOURS, same poses, everything. Only, it's in THEIR style instead of yours. People like their style better. Your original idea is shot to hell.

This is wrong. I think copying an original idea is just as bad as copying the art style itself.

Seriously, if people think it's cheap to use someone else's idea, then they won't vote for that person. No need for a rule as long as no tracing over another person's work is involved. All this rule does is take possible challenge out of the competition. Which is very uncompetitionlike. Or something. If someone outdoes you, try doing better. This is what a competition is SUPPOSED to be like.

Okay, so technically, if some people think it's cheap to steal someone's art style and some people don't, stealing an art style shouldn't be against the rules either. Y'know, your art style was just stolen, you'll live, just TRY TO DO BETTER.

No, I don't think so.

Stealing an art style? You can't even judge on something like that here. The only thing you can judge on is whether or not a picture was stolen or traced.

What artist do you know of who hasn't had someone else copy them in some similar way? How about Jhonen's style, for example? How about Sonic Battle?

Nevermind the fact that you don't know for sure whether a style had been done before or not.

When I say stolen art style, I do mean we have judged it to be absolutely stolen at the spur of the moment because that person that stole the art style didn't have the same exact art style as person B a competition ago. I thought this would be obvious, since I said STOLEN ART STYLE and not "Maybe stolen but maybe not stolen art style."

Listen, SP, I'm not arguing with you about this anymore. You've so far failed to even prove your point, and you're changing topics all over the place, like "well how do you know it's stolen?" If an admin or a mod, the ones PUTTING THESE RULES SOMEWHERE SO THEY ARE OFFICIAL, say something about any rules they think are unfair, they will be changed.

Then why even bother to post these here if you don't want people to comment? Give the rules to the mods and have them post a stickied, locked topic. Because it obviously doesn't matter what anybody else who doesn't agree completely with your rules thinks.

I like when people comment, and as you can see I have responded to comments. But I don't respond to comments that have absolutely no proven point and go around in circles.

Or rather, I do respond to comments like those, and argue, and then realize your arguement is stupid.

This post has been edited by Joey on Aug 18 2005, 06:02 PM

Anyway, my point is that that rule is a unnecessary one that limits how people can vote and how artists can compete with their artistic skills. As long as the art isn't just hotlinked as their own, no rule like this should exist in my opinion.

SP, me and Joey allready put a resolution to that problem in like... 5 posts in the first page. DOUBLE U TEE EFF

If someone came up with this utterly amazing idea that was so astounding as to make crying babies weep, and someone else blatantly steals the idea, it's kinda like art theft in my book. Not as bad, and it only really counts if the idea is original (if it's just a coincidence or the idea isn't that original, then...well, it's just a coincidence).

It should probably be on a case-by-case basis. If it's obvious that another artist blatantly stole someone else's idea, then I don't think it should be allowed...they should try and be creative. Stealing someone else's idea isn't creative.

If it's just a coincidence, like if I draw something like PIRATE TRICLYDE and Joey or someone coincidentally draws that too, then it should prolly be allowed.

While you may be satisfied with the rule, I am not. I still think it's unnecessary.

Klobber, how do you tell if anything's a coincidence over the internet? :O

Well there are some ways it would be obvious. If someone draws something, and someone else draws the exact same thing a few days later...I still say it should just be judged on a case-by-case basis, it's pretty easy to tell if something was intentional or not. Most of the time.

It really hasn't ever been a problem that I can remember, most people don't have the same ideas, and if they do, the idea was usually something that was obvious anyway.