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Posted: Mar 28 2006, 07:06 AM
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QUOTE (dustindemon @ Mar 28 2006, 07:05 AM)
Doesn't affect me at all, I have all those games for the 64 anyways. Plus, I hate the original PD. PDZ is okay by me, yo.

Am I the only one who's still a Rareware fanboy?

I am too.
But atleast the DKC series will be able for downloading. I always wanted to play the orginal DKC2 again biggrin.gif


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Posted: Mar 28 2006, 07:26 AM
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QUOTE (dustindemon @ Mar 28 2006, 07:05 AM)
Doesn't affect me at all, I have all those games for the 64 anyways. Plus, I hate the original PD. PDZ is okay by me, yo.

Am I the only one who's still a Rareware fanboy?

No, you're not.

Personally, I kind of knew since the beginning that if this were to happen, it'd be a miracle in itself. While I'm kind of saddened, I take consolance in the fact that I own all the Rare N64 games anyway.

I'm still hoping for the enitre SNES DKC trilogy. I'd be heartbroken if that wouldn't be available for download.

I just hope that Rare can port some of their earlier titles like Snake, Rattle N' Roll and Anticipation to the Rev. Until then, looks like my N64 hasn't breathed its last breath.


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Posted: Mar 28 2006, 07:44 AM
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I still don't get why we can't get the old games on Rev. Nintendo should have some rights to the old games.
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Posted: Mar 28 2006, 07:50 AM
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Also here's the Old topic of the 221 Downloads minis some of Rare games.
http://archive.mfgg.net/index.ph...=46809&st=0&hl=

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Posted: Mar 28 2006, 10:40 AM
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Wow, now I'm glad I found my N64 last summer.


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Posted: Mar 28 2006, 10:52 AM
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No one's upset about Jet Force Gemini? laugh3.gif
Well anyway, I have all the Rare N64 games that I care about already...


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Posted: Mar 28 2006, 12:57 PM
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For all you people who seem to be legitimately confused about this situation:

Because Rare owns the code that made up Goldeneye, and Electronic Arts owns the Bond license; Goldeneye is a game divided that without heavy editing (likely) or a multi-company agreement (nevereverever) it will not see a port.

For the same reasons, many games that were forged on shaky deals may slip right from developers' grip. Simply because so much time has passed, and they don't have access to these franchises anymore.

So, ifyou're looking forward to like, downloading the N64 Spider-Man game... you could actually do that, because Activision is still clinging to the rights of the wall-crawler. But if you wanted like... Maximum Carnage from the SNES? It can't happen, Acclaim is long since out of business, and while a new company has decided to adopt their namesake; you'll find it isn't looking good for Maximum Carnage, Software Creations was an internal Acclaim house from what I can tell, and regardless to them automatically owning the code, the same reason you -can- get Spidey 64 is the one you cannot get just about any Spider-Man game prior.

Comic book franchises, as well as movie licensees; are not going to be prevalent on the Revolution virtual console as some would hope. There are a few obvious exceptions, what with internal publishers to the franchise like with Lucasarts, making Star Wars ports from all generations a great possibility.

But really, you should be expecting video game greats to lead the charge, and not the good licensed games (back when there was such a thing) Mario, Sonic, Mega Man, the Belmont clan, Bonk, just about every major franchise can and probably will appear in some form, 1000 Genesis games alone is indicative of how much support this thing is getting. At E3, it is likely we'll finally get a list of just who all has signed on


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Posted: Mar 28 2006, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE (Kaepora Ocelot @ Mar 28 2006, 03:27 AM)
Are you suggesting that Rare's newer FPSs are 'up-to-date'?

Perfect Dark Zero is very archaic. Goldeneye is a classic FPS. You were most likely 2 when the game came out. Shut up.

I'm just saying I'd rather try something new rather than keep playing old games, which is why I want a Revolution. It's something new, never been done before. And when did I mention PDZ? It was alright, but not the best. GE beats it by far.


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Posted: Mar 28 2006, 03:34 PM
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Well if Rare works out a deal with EA we MIGHT see Banjo on the rev after all.
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Posted: Mar 28 2006, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE (Kaepora Ocelot @ Mar 28 2006, 06:40 AM)
I don't have a scanner on me, but I'll sum it up (and tell you it was in the 200th issue):
EGM: So Perfect Dark really sucks
Rare: well we put a lot of work into it
EGM: No, it sucked. It's ironic that a company named 'Rareware' hasn't made one good game in over a decade
Rare: Did you like the bonus disc?
EGM: No, it was like something a few drunk interns threw together.

ATTENTION READERS: DON'T VIEW THE BONUS DVD! It will only piss you off more!

PDZ wasn't THAT bad. It's no Golden Eye, but it didn't suck. It was fun for a while, but it didn't show anything new.


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Posted: Mar 28 2006, 03:39 PM
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Wait whats this about PDZ sucking? Yeah it kinda did. I prefer the first one anyday.
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Posted: Mar 28 2006, 03:41 PM
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I'd prefer Super Mario Brothers 3 over Mario 64 and Sunshine but that doesn't mean they suck.


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Posted: Mar 28 2006, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE (StopNSwap @ Mar 28 2006, 02:34 PM)
Well if Rare works out a deal with EA we MIGHT see Banjo on the rev after all.

What are you talking about; there is no obstacle for -Microsoft- to publish that game, they own Rare and can pretty much make that decision for them, at which case it would end up on Live Arcade more so than the Revolution virtual console.

On a sidenote, a comparison between the two is laughable


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Posted: Mar 28 2006, 07:01 PM
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Mischief Makers is all we need.

And god people, with Genesis games up for download, I've got two words that'll make you forget all your Rare woes:

Gunstar Heroes.



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Posted: Mar 28 2006, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE (Thunder @ Mar 28 2006, 08:38 PM)
but it didn't show anything new.

There you go again, contradicting yourself.

You stated earlier that you didn't enjoy archaic shooters.


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Posted: Mar 28 2006, 09:24 PM
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This would go a lot better if you guys posted OBJECTION! in capital letters and then presented the contradicting evidence.

Just sayin'.


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Posted: Mar 28 2006, 10:11 PM
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Never played any of those.

So I doubt I'll miss them.


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Posted: Mar 28 2006, 11:27 PM
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Allow me to just step in here for a second, and point out something:

Some of you folks are honestly fooling yourself, if you think that Rare was some completely original mastermind.

The only innovative thing about the company as a whole, was that they were one of the first (if not THE first) non-Japanese company to step up, and publically display that they were following in the same direction as Sega and Nintendo were, when it comes to displaying iconicity through their characters.

However, Yamauchi never hired Tim and Chris Stamper because of their outstanding way to 'develop characters' or 'write a story'.

Nintendo most likely decided to contract from Rareware on that one night where Tim Stamper displayed to the 'higher up' Nintendo members a glossy, pre-rendered tech demo, featuring two boxers (of course this technology would be implamented in all of Rare's later SNES games).

Yamauchi never once thought to himself 'I'm going to let these guys hop on my train, because they can easily replace Yokoi and Miyamoto', he wanted them because he needed as much pseudo technical superiority he could possibly get, to beat out Sega and the little blue hedgehog.


Now let's move forward a few years in the future, to the days of the Nintendo 64.

Here, I can't not point out one single original game from Rareware.

It was Banjo, to Mario 64; Diddy Kong Racing, to Mario Kart. Of course, there's a somewhat visable difference between the games, but not a significant enough change. It was sort of a 'Let's take what Miyamoto did wrong, and take it two steps forward'. A change from 'Rock' to 'Heavy metal'. Something very vague.

People at E3 didn't find Banjo impressive because it was an outstandingly original, and innovative game; they found it as a 'sister' to Super Mario 64, which led to a jocular competition between Nintendo, and their -then- second party development house. However, when consumers started to find out about this, Rareware cleaned up their act. Conker for example; instead of directly ripping off a Ninetendo game, they cooked a subpar platformer. But nobody would confuse it for anything of the Nintendo brand, because of the horrible, and raunchy humor.


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Posted: Mar 28 2006, 11:30 PM
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If I were funny, this might've kept your attention.


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Kaepora, all the parts of that post involving "SUCK SUCK SUCK" are opinion based.


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Posted: Mar 28 2006, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE (Freaky Mutant Man @ Mar 29 2006, 04:30 AM)
Kaepora, all the parts of that post involving "SUCK SUCK SUCK" are opinion based.

...what the hell? I never came out and said that. You always completely miss the sensical part of my posts, and act like a jackass.

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